Monday, May 10, 2010

You know this would be awesome

Let's try this again...

13 comments:

Nils said...

Hell yeah! Or well, maybe...if they run out of options for the third films plot that is...

At first I kinda wondered what the reveal would be, but then I remembered "Oh yeah, this is Moviebob. Can only mean one thing." ;)

Ezenwa said...

If only they can pull it off before the Avengers film. LOL. If not, then Marvel has beaten DC to the punch with its epic team-up film. Still, it's not too late. Justice League is very possible under Nolan's watch.

Hilarious, by the way.

Oh, and I heard you're going to SGC. Any chance of some collaboration with the AVGN, Spoony, or dare I say, a debate with Uwe Boll?

xarin said...

I take it you've been watching I am Legend recently( the will smith version?

Filmduck said...

Gotta disagree with you completely on this one. I don't think Christopher Nolan's Batman works at all in a world with SUPER heroes. But I just feel like most of the single DC universe and the single Marvel universe are ideas that will not translate well to film. Ironman 2 already shows glimpses of the strain of too many characters and too many archs. I do not look forward to the same co-mingling. This is also why I am not really looking forward to The Avengers movie.

Steve said...

I like the idea of a crossover but that setup feels waaaay off to me. Batman has never been a character to accept advice too easily after all. Personally I'd go with something like... uh, incoming Fan Wank alert:

Make the next Superman movie the Death of Superman arc. Start the flick showing Superman struggling to be everywhere at once, hint at a wider DC superhero universe, establish Luthor as a proper head of industry rather than a scam artist (or put another character in) and find Doomsday. Second half could see Doomsday wake up, go on rampage, fight superman and cause collatoral damage on a scale never before seen. You finish 15 minutes from the end of the flick on the iconic shot of Superman down in front of the Daily Planet. Establish he's really dead, show the memorial and finish with a report of a break-in (or out) of the tomb on TV... pull back to show it's on a screen in the Batcave.

Sets up the next film along the line of the Return story but with Batman doing his detective thing to find out what happened and bring Superman back. You end up with a working relationship between them and something to build upon for future movies.

Of course it'll never happen so this is pointless FW anyway ;-)

Taylor said...

No, it wouldn't be awesome at all. Not even slightly. Crossovers are bad, very very bad. They come cloaked in this toybox mentality that Superman is good and Batman is good and therefore both is better, but it's like saying that Macbeth would have been better if Hamlet was in it.

The characters don't work together, especially not Nolan's Batman who is strictly non-super. And what would you get in this movie? The motions. Just going through the motions like every superhero crossover, more concerned with having each character express the same old character traits and burn down into a tired stereotype.

I really think there is some fanboyism clouding your reviewer instincts here.

Nils said...

I don't think Bob is all that serious about this though...he if anybody knows this really wouldn't work in the "new" Batman movieverse. And come on, it's just a funny thought experiment! ;)

I hope Nolans next Batman will be as good as TDK and that he finishes his saga with it, like he said he will. So we can have a nice, complete trilogy of films. Then DC can reboot the franchise if they want to get crossover-happy.

Anonymous said...

It'a a fun idea, but it'd just end up like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FywMOuMqNuI

Chris M H said...

I'm not sure why all you guys are being so negative about this proposition. I think you're forgetting that this already happened and worked really well.

I'm talking about the DCAU. Batman and Superman each had their own series that were both doing really well but had very different feels to them (upbeat and inspirational for Superman and grim, gothic realism for Batman). Then they had a big crossover Justice League movie. And it was GREAT.

Anonymous said...

While I don’t think that crossovers are inherently bad (there are many instances of good crossovers in comics and TV to prove this) I do agree that crossing Nolan’s Batman with an alien who flies and fights crime would be very tricky. Such a thing could only be done properly if done by an extraordinarily talented filmmaker (like say the guy who is currently in charge of overseeing the DC comic movies)
But you don’t need to be an extraordinarily talented filmmaker to figure out that one of the biggest problems (maybe the biggest) is of course making the audience believe that Nolan’s Batman and Superman live in the same world. Now, I’m no master film maker, but if they were to end Batman 3 this way, here are two ideas.

1. Treat Superman’s arrival with the same realism that was seen in the Batman movies. The arrival of a benevolent, god-like being would cause many varying reactions from people and possibly cause mass riots, suicides, and buncha other nasty stuff. Treating this situation realistically would help the audience to accept the situation.

2. Focus on the scientific parts of the Superman Mythos, rather than the mystical parts. Science fiction, when done well, can often times help give the illusion of realism.

Now I know a lot of people would probably be really pissed about the realism of the Batman movies being broken, but just remember two things.

1. The Batman movies aren’t that realistic to begin with. I mean look at Batman himself. He’s basically Sherlock Holmes mixed with Ryu Hayabusa. A Ninja Detective, yeah that’s very realistic.

2. The reason realism works for the Batman movies has nothing to do with the fact that there are no super powered individuals. It has to do with their uncanny understanding of cause and effect when it comes to crime and justice in the real world.

Taylor said...

@Chris H M: They were good because of the people who made the series...and largely because they kept the crossover at an absolute minimum (The series slowly and ungracefully collapsed once it went above 7 heroes)
But keep in mind that Justice League is not a combination of different characters because the characters like that don't combine. The Batman who teams up with Superman is a completely different character than the Batman who exists in his own comic. That's what I really don't like about crossovers...you have to sand off so many corners to make it all fit that everything just ends up flat.

tom shapira said...

The Justice League cartoon was great... but the important thing to remmeber about it was that it was a CARTOON. some thing are simply better suited for animation, super-heroes are one of those things, super-hero teams without a unifying theme are espcially one of those things: Brandon Roth's Superman would clash horribly with Nolan's Batman.

Anonymous said...

meh.