Tuesday, October 19, 2010

Walt Disney Presents: The Avengers

This has been innevitable for at least a year now, but it's still a pretty cool new checkpoint for the "this is really happening" cycle to cross, at last: As of yesterday, the still-in-pre-production "Avengers" movie has officially transfered it's "rights" from Paramount to Disney.

Disney bought Marvel Comics with a plan in mind: They wanted an equally-massive "boy brand" to compliment their massive "girl brand" re: the "Disney Princess" franchise(s), and buying a few thousand superheroes all at once made a certain amount of sense - except it came with a "catch"...

Between the late-1990s and 2009 when the Disney deal was struck, Marvel had already spread-out the FILM rights to a lot of it's "A" characters among multiple studios - so even though Disney now owns, say, Spider-Man... they don't have the rights to make MOVIES about him.

Strictly in terms of the film-rights, it breaks down roughly like this: Sony Pictures owns "Spider-Man," Fox owns "X-Men," "Daredevil," "Ghost Rider," "Fantastic Four" and various ancilliary characters; while Marvel Studios and Paramount had a joint-agreement on the Avengers-connected franchises (Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America, Thor, Nick Fury and the rest.)

Under the terms of this deal, when "Avengers" and "Iron Man 3" come out in 2012/2013 (and their hoped-for sequels after that), they'll come out under the Disney banner - Paramount will retain the rights to "Captain America" and "Thor," both still releasing in 2011 (but if they're both hits, look for Disney to buy THEM "back," too.)

For fans, the immediate-takeaway here is overwhelmingly positive: "Avengers," even before the Disney deal, was meant to serve as the "hub" of the shared-universe-continuity Marvel is hoping to finally bring from the comic world to the film world... and now, there's NO extra red-tape keeping it from interacting with the VAST majority of characters and properties owned by Disney/Marvel. If they want, say, Luke Cage or Doctor Strange or Black Panther or whoever to show up in a big "Avengers" movie to promote THEIR feature; it can happen easily.

18 comments:

existance said...

If Disney bought Spider-man off Sony, just think of all we wouldn't endure.

Andy Warth said...

OT: Hey Bob, I was wondering if you have already seen this amazing trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy2nAOdBUlw&feature=player_embedded

sorry if I am not on topic here, but damn if this isn't the most amazing trailer ever... BTW, i love your work,keep on doing everything you do man, you rock.

Dav3 said...

I'm really worried about how having the Disney name on these movies might affect the content.

Now I'm usually the first to argue that you don't need show every drop of blood or inch of skin to make a serious movie, and I know we're a long way removed from the extra-cuddly Disney of old, but still...

Can you imagine if some idiot producer gets the idea of turning these movies into animated musicals?!

jameshayes said...

Pretty cool, but Tim's comments are still stale and uninspired.

jameshayes said...

Seriously, though, this sounds "smart" from a purely entertainment perspective so, as long as we dont get Avengers as produced by Jerry Bruckheimer, I like it.

Bob said...

@Tim,

The schtick is old. I don't really care if people want to be a dick to ME, but your pissing everyone else who posts here off as well. It gets deleted from now on, if you really feel the need to keep being a six year-old, do it over email and not on the comments.

KevinCV said...

Sounds like it'll be pretty interesting, Bob. I just hope to God they won't screw anything up. Of course, I remember when Disney was still obsessed with it's "Family-friendly" image, so they put all their movies that were "nit-so-family-friendly" under the "Touchstone Pictures" label. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what they decided to do here, but I hope not. That said...

Tim, will you shut the fuck up already?! I've had it with your continued posting about how much "Metroid: Other M" sucks! How about posting a justifiable reason for why it sucks instead of just saying "It sucks" all the damn time?! And if you DARE to play the "It's not 'Halo'." card for your "reason", I'll be on you like shit on Velcro! I've said it before, and I'll say it one last time: Bob likes it, you don't. GET THE FUCK OVER IT!

*pant, pant* Thank you, Bob, for pointing out to him how old this is getting. I really needed to get that outta my system, though.

Christopher said...

Great news one-and-all; but let's hope Disney can now buy back Spider-man, X-Men, Ghost Rider, and Fantastic Four as well

MAHistorian said...

Disney will find a way, to eventually, buy back, all, of the Marvel Film Franchises, from the other studios, within the next decade, or two, or even less, than, those two time frames.

After all, Disney does have the money, to buy all those franchises, as soon, as, they want them, but they have, to wait, until the film rights, expires.

Arturo said...

As long as they stay true to the mythos of the characters, storylines, etc. and keep it PG-13 where it need apply, I don't think we have nothing to worry about.

Arturo said...

@existance

I guess I technically WOULD trust Disney more with this than I would trust Sony.

akkuma420 said...

@Andy
Troll Hunter..... is it a movie about Youtube? lol......
Looks silly, but might be fun to watch.
According to the trailer, this is the most important film ever...... how so!?
Its about fucken CG trolls!
Stupid misleading trailer.

rob said...

I find it strange that there isn´t a time-limit on those rights at the other studios. You´d think a deal like that would be made for 5 years, or 10, a temporary license or sumthing. In that case, Disney would just have to wait for it...

Andy Warth said...

@ akkuma420

or 4chan... or imdb... lol
And about the 'most important movie of our time' thing... Just think about it... CGI trolls who can smell Christian's blood, the EPIC voice of the guy who explains what kinds of trolls are there, and the guy with the hat whos screams TROOOOOOOOLLLLLL... I don't know man, it sounds to me like a contender ^^

Funky Al said...

@Dav3
An animated musical, no. But I do so wish that somehow, for whatever reason, Disney would resume production on the Spectacular Spider Man.
Anyway, the whole bit about broken rights barriers intrigues me. Might a muppet/marvel crossover exist in the future?

We can only dream.

Bob said...

@rob,

Technically, there IS a time-limit on those rights - there usually is with properties like this, to prevent a studio from buying film rights just to "sit on" them.

That's why Sony is in such a hurry to reboot Spider-Man (cheaper new actors, lower-budget script, etc) and Fox is panicking to relaunch Daredevil and Fantastic Four and keep XMen and Ghost-Rider going.

Joe said...

Isaiah Mustafa for Luke Cage!

The Karligarchy said...

So is the Spiderman reboot 2 under Sony Pictures or is that Disney? It sure be nice if there was some additional reason other than third movie being horrible. It says something when a movie is so horrible that the only way out is to reboot the franchise... For the sake of the writers of Spiderman 3 I hope the Disney reason contributed to the reboot decision. Otherwise it seems they wrote a bad enough movie to force a reboot.