Completely Off-topic Moviebob but I wanted to say I saw THOR today here in the UK and it was really good, and as you all probably have guessed by now: wait until after the trailers for an extra scene.So yeah, really good.
Woops not trailers I meant credits.
HOO-RAY! :D...Wait, he made it all the way to the final round? Geez...
good, the prick shouldn't even have his job. Heck, he shouldn't even be out of jail
Well, that makes me and my wife happy. The less he gets, the better, I say.Bob, I was wondering what you thought of this new Superman storyline where Supes apparently rejects his US Citizenship? Sounds like it'd makes an interesting topic for a Big Picture episode.http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/04/27/superman-renounces-us-citizenshipThe knee-jerk reaction I've seen so far is half "FUCK YOU DC" and half "I'm okay with this"
@ Reverend Allan IronsideThat WOULD be an interesting Big Picture topic. Not sure what to think of that myself, honestly...
I personally don't care for it. I mean, I and everyone I've ever known has always seen Superman as the ideal for the very best of American values. Thus his mantra: "Truth, Justice, and the American Way."If those aren't true, then the basis for a lot of what I hold dear for Superman mean nothing and, frankly, I can't respect the character knowing he's undone the very core of his character. Sure, he can help the world without waving the flag behind him at all times, but this storyline is just, to me, PC horsedump. I'm interested to know what Bob thinks. I mean, it IS right up there in his title "Proud to be an American, prouder to be an American Gamer." to which I say better words cannot be spoken.
@Reverend,I think it falls into the "well-intentioned silliness" category for me.I mean, I get the idea - it doesn't make ANY sense whatsoever for an alien with the power of a god living on Earth and acting as a global/intergalactic do-gooder to swear allegiance even to just the "philosophical" ideals of only ONE country. It made SOME sense WWII-era, or during the Cold War when it really was "American-style democracy vs. Soviet communism" (although the "and the American way!" business was a relic of the 50s that WASN'T his original comics credo, FYI) ...but today, in a world with hundreds of democracies, constitutional monarchies and even "democratic socialist" states all in relative states of modernity/peace? It'd be dopey for a guy who LITERALLY lives above/beyond borders to chiefly represent ONE of them.On the other hand... as Devin pointed out on Badassdigest.com... even IN the comics-universe, it's kind of an empty, pointless gesture - "Superman" doesn't actually have any legal citizenship to renounce because he isn't "real." "Superman" is Clark Kent's psuedonym, he doesn't have a passport or a license or anything. So unless CLARK is going to turn in his citizenship, too, this is basically just Superman being one of those folks who "thinks of himself as a global citizen," except HE can actually back it up cuz... y'know, FLYING.It's a stunt, basically - and probably a setup for him to throw down with Captain Atom or some other directly government-affiliated hero at some "America declares war on Superman" event in the near future.
It's hard to imagine a godlike being aligning himself with just one country and things not ending up like Dr. Manhattan. Fighting evil in other countries would be seen as American imperialism, he'd be blamed for all the crimes of the American government, he'd be expected to help the USA out even when they're in the wrong, etc etc.I can see how you can call it an empty gesture when he's not got a US passport or anything to begin with, but appearances are everything, and if people see him as a tool of the American government, it would make sense for him to want to distance himself from that.
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