I thought it was a really good movie, but I couldn't help but think that it could have used a little more time to polish. That being said, you nailed it about Magneto. He was easily my favorite part of the film and I have to say, as a fan of vibrant superhero costumes, I was DEFINITELY not unimpressed with what they did with this film. The dreary costumes of the old X-films can go burn somewhere.
Bob,What was your problem with X-3 and Wolverine? They weren't all that bad considering the source material is comic books (which let's face it is not exactly what comes to mind when people think of quality literature). They were exactly what they were trying to be, silly, popcorn action movies.
I'm going to see it this evening. I can't wait.
My love for comics is intimately tied to the X-Men so I will pray this is really as good as you say and that it leads to more.And really how can we have four/five X-Men movies but no Sentinals yet?@WaldoI thought X-3 was 'alright' but a far cry from what it could have been. Even if comics with their goofy spandex and codenames are just fun by themselves, X-Men hasn't been all that silly for quite some time in the story department.Bryan Singer tried to make the first two films as intelligent as he could manage and did quite well in my opinion (even if I think trying to do a Phoenix storyline may have been a shakey choice). X3 was an average action movie that outside of the special effects and stunts was just dumb, hence the big letdown. It's like watching the first two theatrical Lord of the Rings movies and then finding out that Return of King was this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y
nice. very nice. i will say though, that to me X3 was far, far worse than Wolverine. I mean, wolvering was not good, and I'm sure it botched the source material more, but X3 was just... awful. I mean, 1 and 2 were pretty good, and this one was just painful. Perhaps this is just Spiderman 3 Syndrome, and I'm hating more because of what it ruined than anything else. now i'm upset because writing that paragraph forced me to relive how awful it was...
That's so great to hear especially about X3 & Wolverine being deleted from continuity. I will have to rush out and see this as soon as humanly possible.
I don't see how any previous BAD adaptation of something could hinder the appeal of a reboot. I mean when a movie does something you love wrong. You want nothing more then them to get it right. Now they just need to slowly ignore the first two movies. and lets have a proper story surrounding Wolverine and Deathstrike eh?
@waldo Are you fucking kidding me? Just haphazardly slap something together because, "Hey it's comics we don't need to try hard, no one is expecting us to." You know comics doesn't have to be that way. you can get your ideas and messages across in a forty page comic that would make a thousand page novel wasting my time describing everything, from the setting to clothes they are wearing.
It's funny that he used an Other M snapshot when he was talking about deleting X3&4 from the X-Men continuity, because we now desperately need a new Metroid game to wipe Other M clean from the Metroid continuity.
Saw it tonight, and I'd place it above The Dark Knight myself, though that's mostly because the third act just falls apart for me. I love all of the Dark Knight up until the whole boat business and the killing of Two-Face. Then I just...augh.Of course, to say as much makes me feel like I'm somehow dishonoring Heath Ledger's ghost considering how much of a religious symbol he's practically become just for dying right after being cast as an iconic character (which I find humorous helped elevate The Dark Knight but did little for Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus).I do wonder if the last ten minutes of the film wouldn't have been better off spread out as a sequel, but then again, they didn't know if they'd get a sequel, did they?I'd discuss it more, but I don't want to jump into spoilers yet. Still, best X-Men film hands down, and just a great movie overall.
Just saw it a few hours ago, loved it! Just the perfect blend of Comic Book weirdness and "real life" elements in my opinion.I'm not sure if its as good quality-wise as "The Dark Knight" but I definitely enjoyed this more, personally.I just hope a sequel is planned and that Vaughn is brought back in as well.
@Chris Cesarano:...You didn't like the boat scene in TDK? How is that even possible?-----@Mr. Chipman:The only part of your review I feel I can comment on is the quote about this film having a better "colour palette" as opposed to the previous X-Men films. One of the reasons I'm not terribly interested in seeing this is because it looks just as drab and wet and BLAND as they always have. One red guy and some yellow jumpsuits do not appease this. Nothing in the trailers back up what you said there, so I'm forced to assume every other scene shown in theatres is a modern-day Yellow Submarine.
I agree with you but I think you're dumbing down The Dark Knight. Not that X-Men First Class is dumb, but come on.Also, while First Class is one of the best superhero films to date, I think it has a huge time-issue. So much is rushed or feels cut down that, while it still came out amazing, I think there was a 3 hour script squeezed into a 2 hour film.Now, if a 3-hour version of First Class exists, that may be something to rival The Dark Knight.I would also hope that said 3 hour version does away with the many, many pieces of dialog that are as clunky, obvious, and so very "DO YOU GET IT?!" lines like "Mutant and proud." Subtlety, whats that?
god, X3 was bad and Origins was just offensive (Deadpoooooooool!). With Vaughn behind the helm now I hope this series can continue and do some big things. We probably won't be seeing Wolverine for awhile, but I can see them finding a way to work Gambit in
@ WaldoMaus is taught in literature classes. Comics are a medium, not a genre, they're as good as the people who make them, end of story.Japan is one place that got it right: comics come in every genre, for every age group. I may not care for most of what gets translated, but that goes back to taste and Sturgen's Law.You're confusing superhero with comic book. Superheroes don't just exist in comic books. Indiana Jones is a superhero. He has a costume, he has a secret identity, he has superpowers (luck/dias ex machina, super-charm, super-archeology), and he has an arch rival (Nazis). In the third movie, he also got his origin story told, where he became Indiana, instead of just a boyscout. Oh yeah, he also has a super-name: Indiana, not Dr. Henry Jones Jr. And don't give me the pulp/serial character crap, those were superheroes too, just not in tights, they still wore costumes.I get so sick of the "oh, it's just a comic book movie, durp" garbage. History of Violence was a comic book movie. So was Road to Perdition; both of those were based on comics, and Hancock wasn't.
@AdamThere were Sentinels.In a trainingsession, Colossus picked up and threw Wolverine, then an explosion, and a landing Sentinelhead.
I saw the film a second time with some friends, and other than catching on to some clever little director tricks, it still stood up to a second viewing.But yeah, as pointed out, the film has some cheese going for it, such as "Mutant and proud" and Magneto referring to himself as Frankenstein's monster. However, everything has to have a bit of cheese.I do still stand by my point that the actual conflict between Xavier and Magneto, where their friendship is ruined, should have been a movie all on its own. But I still also understand that you can't really rely on the possibility of a sequel.Still, considering how packed the theater was both times I saw it, I think we can count on this doing better (or as well) as the previous X-Men films. In such a case, we can hopefully count on seeing the likes of Banshee and Havok again. This film was pretty much all about Xavier and Magneto, followed by Mystique's origin as well. There just wasn't time to delve into some of the side characters.Also: still not sure what to think of their rendition of Angel.
@RobI'll give you that is true, but 1/5 of a Sentinel onscreen for 5 seconds in a Danger Room session just does not equate to the story-relevant mutant hunting monstrosities they're supposed to be.@MovieJust saw this last and I enjoyed it, but I think putting it on par with Dark Night is a little too generous. For one thing the last 10 minutes just feel very rushed. But still it did pretty well overall with the source material so I'm encouraged that they could turn the ship around.
Actually, after doing some research, they simply used a newer character that sounds pretty accurate.
@RobThat was not a role, that was a cameo.I see you're point but in my opinion that entire sequence just felt like the filmmakers were outright yelling;"THERE, you asked for a Sentinel, we gave you a Sentinel! It had nothing to do with the story, but there it is, a Sentinel. Satisfied? Now, please shut up and watch Brett Ratner butcher the Phoenix Saga."Was it kinda cool to finally see a Sentinel in a film?Yes.Was it also incredibly infuriating that they forwent with the story having anything to do with it?Hell Yes!!!
I went to see this movie because Bob told me to. And I did not like it.Magneto's character is not developed — he's just a caricature. And his decision to actively oppose humans, is it starwars-prequel-style "Oh, he's so angry, thus dark side got him"?Most of the dialogues are painful to listen to.But at least Russians did not speak gibberish and had no American accents, cheers on that.
@Will: I'm with you--the character development was good, but could have used more time. Moira McTaggart in particular was underused. Otherwise, I loved it. It was a Connery-era Bond film with Sebastian Shaw as Blofeld, the Hellfire Club as SPECTRE, and Magneto as Bond. Turns out I had a much better time at the theatre than my friends who saw Hangover II instead.
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