Tuesday, October 11, 2011

First "Avengers" Trailer Hits

I'm predisposed to be irrationally excited for "The Avengers" because of what it represents: The idea of comic-style shared-universe "continuity" - the type that blurs through arbitrary genre lines by suggesting that "real" characters and "fantasy" characters exist side-by-side - become part of "movie language" is one of the wish-dreams of the Geek Age. If this works, everything changes.

That the film actually looks really good - with actors who came to play and a sharp script already evident - is quite a relief, though...



First teaser is a little Iron Man heavy, but that's not surprising since his main selling point - he's "the funny one" - doesn't require any finished FX. It's hard to get a good read on the big picture of it; since it's obviously unfinished footage (no color-correction, people shooting guns at empty space, cars being blown up by nothing) but so far I'm encouraged.

31 comments:

christhegamer said...

I love it!

Both Iron Man films were my favorite ones so there never can be too much Tony Stark for me!

Kyle said...

YEP! I'm in.

I gotta say: I actually love Thor, like, way more than I thought I would. I love the bravado and right-and-wrong and... naivete that he pulls off so well.

InnerPartisan said...

Whoa, surely looks nice. I'm not that into Comic books, but consider me hyped!
And BTW: Is it just me, or is Nine Inch Nails becoming *the* go-to band for awesome trailer music? Is it Trent's Oscar? :-D

Guus said...

This I'm going to see immediately when it comes out, shame it'll come out in bloody May! That's far too long a wait!

BrutalUser said...

I really think it looks good, I can really see why CapN and Stark will absolutely hate each other.

KevinCV said...

As I've said before, I haven't really watched or read much of Joss Whedon's body of work, despite a close friend of mine insisting that that I dig into Buffy, Angel, and Firefly ASAP. However, after watching this trailer, color me a bit more excited for how this movie's gonna work. Also liked the brief look at the Hulk. :)

Arturo said...

That.was.metal.

Worth it just for the half-second of Hulk, IMO. Also, "If we can't protect Earth, we'll at least avenge it."
LOVE IT

InnerPartisan said...

KevinCV:
You do that, you do that RIGHT NOW!
And while I love it to death, I can at least *understand* why someone wouldn't like Buffy - the high ammount of camp does need some getting used to.
However, there is no - NOT ONE - reason why any self-respecting nerd shouldn't love - nay, whorship - Firefly & Serenity like a second set of tits/penis.

Elessar said...

I love Joss, so quick thoughts:

Action and effects look good. Whatever people are telling me *coughbobcough* about this being a 'bold experiment in shared continuity,' the movie itself boils down to a big budget action film with some big name actors, so the action is important.

Script is hard to judge at this stage, but it seems fine from what I can see, in that 'action movie' way it NEEDS to be good.

All of the actors look as good as they did in their roles.

Now the problems:

1) I can tell from the trailers that I'm already going to like Cap least of the group. He's going to get caught in the middle anyway, as most of what he does can be done better by other people, but his lack of any real depth was already hurting in his own movie, and here it'll really hurt (although the modern day is where he gets depth, so maybe I'm wrong?)

2) I'm sorry, but whathisname is a terrible replacement for Edward Norton as Bruce.

motyr said...

The Avengers + Nine Inch Nails = TAKE MY MONEY

Christopher Delvo said...

I'm really digging it. What I'd honestly like to see is a set of trailers for each character, as it were. One that focuses on cap, thor, hawkeye, widow, etc. Y'know, give us a little insight into how they'll fit into the story.

KevinCV said...

@InnerPartisan I'll try to find them sometime. Don't worry, though. I can handle a little campiness. I watch "Torchwood", for cryin' out loud! XD

However, it may be awhile before I dig into Firefly. I've been busy listening to some Doctor Who audio dramas from the company Big Finish. They're really good, especially the one's with Colin Baker, the 6th Doctor.

They had him mellow out quite a bit from the rather large ego he had in the series proper. Plus, starting next year, they're gonna start releasing a line of stories with the 4th Doctor, Tom Baker (no relation). I'm excited about listening to those. So's my mom, as Tom was her Doctor.

Anyway, thanks for being the latest person to insist on me watching Firefly. I'll get around to doing so. Eventually.

Anonymous said...

The one an only problem i see is the inevitability of the logic bombs that will fly such as:

-cant tony make 5 iron man suites for the whole team? cause...
- the girl is still fragile as glass compared to the hulk, a Norse god, a robot/man and a super-soldier.
- war machine, why aren't you answering my tweets???? get over here and save the world!!!!
- whose the guy with the bow and why is he here?

Gojira007 said...

I have my issues with the way Marvel's handled the lead-up to this movie, and how tie-ins to it have served to badly hamstring many of the films designed to prepare us for its arrival. I'm not as excited as Bob about the notion of Comic Book style continuity becoming "mainstream" in major motion pictures; indeed, I'm more than a bit anxious about it for a lot of reasons, many of which the aforentioned "Avengers" tie-in films provided me with. And even then, I'm willing to say this looks solid as our first real look at the movie proper. Some thoughts:

* Not a good sign that Mark Ruffalo already feels grossly miscast as Bruce Banner despite only having a single word of dialogue and less than half-a-minute of screen time, but at least Hulk looks good.
* Lots of city-wide explosions, slow-mo cars flipping over, military officers looking all gung-ho...we sure this isn't a "Transformers" trailer?
* The dialogue already has that Joss Whedon sizzle I so love. "You were made to be ruled" is such a perfect opening line, and such an excellent distillation of Loki's views on human beings. The rest of the dialogue here shares that strength for the most part; Tony's irrepresible bantering come-backs throughout are perfect.
* Shot of Thor striking Cap with his shield up? Hell yes. I'm looking forward to seeing how these wildly disparate personalities, all with their own ferocious senses of pride and personal strength, are going to clash with each other, and judging by this shot, the answer is "violently", to which I say "hell yes".
* It's odd to me how Cap's modern uniform almost looks LESS advanced than his WWII-era one, but the more I see it and get used to it the more I like it.
* So Loki's shaping up to be the Shockwave of this movie: he's the only Bad Guy who's been particularly visible in the promotional materials for the film thus far, sure, but we all know Marvel's big, super-important project isn't going to just re-use a villain from an earlier movie. I'm sure he'll look like the main baddie initially, but there's something bigger right around the corner....
* I do wish we got a bit more plot here, though, because without it, most of the "money shots" don't have a lot of context and thus lack impact; I'm thinking of the ending shot of Iron Man in particular. Great, Iron Man flying, haven't seen THAT dozens of times before. Why is this time so special it's the closing shot of the trailer?

I know it seems like I'm being a bit harsh on this trailer, and I probably am, but overall I do walk away very interested in the project.

Nathan said...

Can I just say I'm happy that Jeremy Renner, who's probably playing the only Avenger without much screen time at this point, got some action scenes that made him not only look cool, but look like he belonged alongside characters like Cap and Iron Man.

David (The Pants) said...

THIS GETS ME SUPER EXCITED!!!! There were like, more cars blowing up in this than in one Michael Bay film.

Popcorn Dave said...

Oh joy. Tony Stark is acting like every other smug, mid-90s wisecracking character that Joss Whedon writes, with the same dorky delivery and even a healthy dose of Buffyspeak. "I especially.. love how you... lose... control... and turn into an... enormous green rage monster"? Come the fuck ON. I know we're all supposed to like Whedon but how can anyone watch that and not cringe?

I know you can't judge a whole script on a couple of cherry-picked one-liners, but if Whedon makes all the heroes talk like that - as he usually does - it's going to get old real fast.

I guess most of the trailer is pretty cool though. I'm glad they're (seemingly) playing up the conflict between Iron Man and Captain America, as that's the kind of thing that can really give crossover stories their edge. I'm a bit concerned as to whether Loki can be a credible threat to the whole team when Thor walked all over him last time around. But I guess this is an origin story with a ton of heroes so the actual villain won't get that much screen time anyway.

Overall I'm kind of looking forward to it but still not totally convinced.

Minic said...

Freeze-frame 1:29; the shot of Loki throwing Steve Rogers out of a window...

...or was it? No. It's Tony Stark being grabbed by the neck and tossed out of his own California mansion. THAT will be an interesting scene.

Lee Kalba said...

Anon,

Go back to Thor, notice the sharp shooter with the bow, when Thor is trying to reclaim his hammer?
Cliff Barton, AKA Hawkeye - Google him.

Mariner said...

As good as Ruffalo is, I'll still miss having Norton being in this picture. I did really enjoy '08 Hulk.

akkuma420 said...

I want Eric Bana back... He was the PERFECT Bruce Banner. I liked the Norton Hulk action scenes, but as Bruce Banner... Bana was clearly the better choice for the dramatic acting and nerdy scientist... imo at least. I do like the action scenes in the new Hulk much better though. I'll never be ok with The Incredible Hulk fighting a overgrown poodle... (facepalm)
I'll give Ruffalo a chance though.

Benfea said...

OK, that makes me want to see the movie, and I never cared for the Avengers as a comic book.

CraftyAndy said...

Adding a NIN soundtrack t a movie seems quite popular these days, Terminator, 300, and now this. I like.

Rob said...

The thing is, if this isn't a really LONG movie (150-180 minutes) you're barely going to anything of anyone of them...

Aiddon said...

aaaaaaaand, MEH. I can't help but feel that putting Joss Whedon as director was nothing more than a calculated effort on movie to appeal to the "geek" crowd.

Peter T said...

Looks fantastic! Still curious what the primary plot is going to be, but what I've seen makes me very excited.

Sylocat said...

cant tony make 5 iron man suites for the whole team?

No, because the other members of the team don't have fusion-reactor-powered mechanical hearts.

I too wonder how they're going to make Hawkeye essential to the team... perhaps they're going to put him in the role of The Sniper and have him provide long-range cover and backup... with the sniper rifle replaced with a bow, because it's more stylish and he's Just. That. Good. At archery.

Sylocat said...

As for the villain... well, Loki may not be the most brou-ha-hah fearsome villain of the Marvel Movie (Marvie? Movel?)-verse so far - in fact, I think he's actually the quietest - but he does enjoy several distinctions: He is the slickest, the slimiest, and the LEAST likely to fall for taunts about pride or honor, or to waste time gloating (the downfall of a zillion bad villains).

That alone makes him the one who could cause the most trouble when given a weapon whose power is limited only by the power of your imagination. I assume he's going to summon the Skrull to do his bidding, and perhaps Red Skull will make another appearance as a sidekick (unless they're saving him and/or Tim Blake Nelson's The Leader for the sequel?)

Loki's also the best at psychological warfare and turning his enemies against each other, which I imagine he could easily use to cause some friction, as MovieBob mentioned in an earlier post, between Cap and Iron Man ("Hey Tony, let me introduce you to the guy whom your father spent so much time searching for that he missed half your birthday parties!"), or Cap and the Hulk ("Dr. Banner, meet the only successful test subject of that super-soldier program that failed your archnemesis from the last movie...")... sheesh, a lot of them, on reflection, have a lot of reasons not to be thrilled with Cap...

Ezenwa said...

Question on my mind after seeing the trailer:

What does The Dark Knight Rises pose to us? Will it disappoint? I doubt it..

Mariner said...

@Sylocat

"No, because the other members of the team don't have fusion-reactor-powered mechanical hearts."

That didn't stop Rhodey from lifting the Mark II from Stark in IM2. De activated defense system my ass, Tony had to have majorly rebuilt the chest of that suit to house it's own reactor.

Tater said...

1. Yes Tony could make five suits for the Avengers, but you have to realize that each person has their own skill set and putting them in suits would get in the way of that. Also not to mention that if tony gave away any more suits there is a potential that his technology could get stolen if you remember from the second Iron Man film he didn't want anyone else, but him to have the technology.
2. Black Widow was never meant to be in the front doing the damage like the other Avengers; like Hawkeye she was meant to be the helper that took out the lower ranking enemies while the others took the damage. Also Hawkeye and Black Widow were also meant to be the silent agents in missions that required stealth, this is where the Hulk and Thor would be least useful.
3. Don Cheadle talked in a interview that Marvel and him were discussing a War Machine spin off this could potentially take place the same time the Avengers film is occurring so he may not be available. There is that or something that will lead us to the 3rd Iron Man film like he was assigned by the U.S. government to track down members of the Ten Rings and he got captured in the process.
4. Look back to #2 it should tell you why he is here.