Friday, March 23, 2012

Maybe Not Aliens?

Michael Bay and Platinum Dunes are clearly enjoying the amount of free publicity the off-the-cuff "they're Aliens now!" stuff has gotten their previously not-much-commented-upon TMNT reboot; otherwise there'd have been more "damage control." But early on, BadassDigest's Devin Faraci posited that maybe this was all a huge misunderstanding and it was really in reference to a "back to the source" take re: the original Mirage books, where the "Mutagen Ooze" that created the good guys came from T.C.R.I. Labs (T.G.R.I. in the movies, nonexistant in the show) which was actually a front for aliens called Utroms, who in turn inspired "Krang" in the animated series. Looks like he might've called it...

In an interview with Collider, director Johnathan Liebesman offered the following:

"Look, it’s so funny—if everyone was such a die-hard fan, they would know that the TCRI canisters where the ooze comes from.  That is alien ooze."

Well, okay then. This still doesn't help the broader issues - re: that Platinum Dunes is a terrible studio and Liebesman's thus-far sole screen effort ("Titans" isn't out yet) "Battle LA" was horrible - but it's definitely less head-scratching. And while it's currently en-vogue for fans to dismiss the 80s series out of hand (even though it's demonstably impossible for everyone who says they were fans of the Mirage comics first to really have been) I'd bet good money that if the follow-up announcement is "Oh, BTW... KRANG!" the "buzz" turns around right-quick.

12 comments:

Aiddon said...

ugh, Liebesman, a hack director with nothing but boring pablum on his resume.

Axle said...

So in other words, they purposely mislead people to generate buzz and/or to be able to smuggly call people out? Cuz "the turtles are aliens" and "the turtles mutated from alien goo" are pretty different statements.

TonyCoog said...

Wait a sec, BAttle: LA is Liebesman's only screen credit. Clearly Bob, you've not heard of Darkness Falls or Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning which Liebesman directed before Battle: LA

Anonymous said...

This only confirms that the statement was a marketing ploy. Bet you anything some of the more general forums were full of trolls and bait-takers that were secretly working on behalf of Platinum Dunes.

Lord Slithor said...

And that last paragraph is why I feel this whole thing has been blown way out of hand IMO. If those fans whose first exposure to TMNT was with the 80s cartoon, they grew up never realizing what a total bastardization it was from the original Mirage comics.

At the risk of dating myself, I was around 16 years old when TMNT came on my radar. Back then it was an underground comic that I had seen here and there. But I didn't really start to pick up and read it until after Metallica gave them a shout out in the liner notes of Master of Puppets (Seriously. It's there. Go look.) And I could immediately see why, becuase it was dark, edgy and violent: everything a 16-year-old male thinks is "cool." So when I heard it was going to be turned into an animated TV series a year later, I was really excited.

And then I saw it...

And my reaction immediately was, "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!" So essentially, my reaction was alomst like that the fans are having now. The only difference between then and now is 1) I was 16-years-old at the time and 2) Having already been utterly crushed once and having it done again in subsequent movies (particularly Secret of the Ooze and Turtles in Time), and 3) Knowing that depiction of the turtles that a generation of kids were growing up loving was essential a travesty, I can't really work up this same level of outrage.

As I see it, Bay can do no more damage to the Turtles compared to what's already been done to them. If anything, it'll probably be cooler to watch, even if it does deviate from the source material.

Lord Slithor said...

Also I can't really get too upset over this if even their own creators, Eastman and Laid, can be bothered to care. From what I understand, they weren't too upset with the changes that were made to the 80s cartoon, and since then they've become even more indifferent. Eastman later became publisher of Heavy Metal magazine and seemed more interested in showing off his hot wife Julie Strain in vanity projects like Heavy Metal 2000 (the less said about which, the better) than anything else. And Laird didn't want to seem to want anything further to do with them either until very recently with the luanch of the new IDW series.

It's almost like the Bizarro version of Siegel and Shuster, where they didn't really care what someone else did with their characters after they bout them out.

Ralphael said...

Liebesman is such a bitch. I imagine him saying "LOL ALIEN OOZEE MAKES THEM ALIENS LOL" with his nose high in the clouds.

Anonymous said...

"This still doesn't help the broader issues - re: that Platinum Dunes is a terrible studio and Liebesman's thus-far sole screen effort ("Titans" isn't out yet) "Battle LA" was horrible"

Don't you remember that this was a GOOD thing?

Moviebob circa one month ago:
"On the other hand... he's NOT Michael Bay. So, right now this is good news as far as I'm concerned..."

Rick doesn't roll as much as you get my eyes to.

Anonymous said...

@above

Getting held up for your money is better than being tortured. Doesn't make the robbery a good thing.

patrick.b.healy said...

@TonyCoog
Both of those movies are poo. So I don't see how that changes anything.

Okay, I've never read the comics and I really didn't watch any of the cartoon(s). But, does this mean they're going to be fighting aliens? Are the TMNT going to fight space aliens in this movie?
Why is that something to be bothered by?

Anonymous said...

"And while it's currently en-vogue for fans to dismiss the 80s series out of hand (even though it's demonstably impossible for everyone who says they were fans of the Mirage comics first to really have been)"

Amen to that. I hate when people pretend that they were fans of the original comic and not the cartoon and go on about how bad the cartoon was. If it wasn't for the cartoon, the Turtles would be nothing but a flash in the pan.

cdstephens said...

Bob, T.C.R.I. is in the newer TMNT show, where Shredder is also a Krang-like alien. So it's not hard to imagine that they'll work off of that material than the original cartoon, since the newer cartoon is more serious and has actual plot lines instead of just goofy adventures. Having seen both cartoons, I'm glad they're going with the newer one personally; while the older cartoon was fun and campy, I probably wouldn't want to see a movie based on it now that I'm older.