Tuesday, May 01, 2012

"THIZIZINNACARGH!!!"

Hey look, here's that final "Dark Knight Rises" trailer that's supposed to be stuck in front of "The Avengers" prints. Good news: Bane's voice doesn't suck now. Bad news: Batman's still does.



Yup. That's that movie alright. And a decidedly solid trailer to boot - definitely leaning hard on the "this is serious drama" button.

Are we finally going to see (competent) hand-to-hand fight scenes in a Nolan Batman movie? ...probably not, but the trailer is kinda hinting at it at least. I DO really like that so much of this seems to take place in the daytime, it's a nice switch - although... huh. Y'know, if the big setpiece action scene of this is also a big goodies vs. baddies brawl in the middle of New York  Gotham... that would really kind of suck for Nolan and company.

26 comments:

The Noir Guy said...

I love how right next to this post are a "be a S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent" ad and an ad for "Marvel's Avengers 3D". Sign of what's to follow?

Anonymous said...

As a fan of Bane's previous voice, I'm glad it's clear but still has that something that I felt made it pretty badass. Funny...I read people complaining that Batman's voice still sucks and others relieved that its better. I'd side with the latter but they did seem like quiet scenes, we'll have to see if he's back to growling when he's angry.

I gotta say I disagree about the potential of the big brawl in the middle of Gotham being the big final battle...I'm loving the idea of it.

Sure it won't have buildings being destroyed, CGI explosions, and big green monsters...but personally the themes the film seems to be setting up just fit for a final uprising of the good against the evil. The PEOPLE are taking their city back. And Batman's line of not giving Gotham everything...sorry to sound pretentious but I feel by the time we get there, the "emotional" stakes will be higher than 'gotta save the world from being destroyed'.

Joshua the Anarchist said...

WOW. That is the ugliest goddamn flying machine I have ever seen. I mean, I know a lot of people were down on the Tumbler and the Batpod, but I never had a problem with them...until now. NOW I get it. I mean really? They needed a Batcopter and their solution was to just take the wheels off the Tumbler and have it hover around? Jesus Nolan, sometimes you astound me. I mean, Batman is apparently to out there for you, but you're perfectly willing to dump instant cloning machines & telepathic dream interface tech in your movies with no real explanation? How does your mind work?

DISCLAIMER: I actually love Nolan's movies and think he's a genius, it's just these little inconsistencies & habits of his that bug me.

Cyrus said...

Alright, after initial suspicions following the previous trailer, I'm calling it now: The Dark Knight Rises will present us with the idea of an Occupy-esque movement gone violent and that might just be what the movie needs, to be as thematically relevant as its predecessor.

munchie64 said...

Actually, listening to it 500 times, I think Batman's voice has been toned down to Begin's levels (which was perfect in a couple of scenes btw). Also I think the whole film may be a set piece rather then one scene (which may be either good, or bad).

Are you gonna be doing an analysis of this one Bob, or is the next Intermission going to be about how Avengers actually happened?

Anonymous said...

Bob, this is really starting to piss me off. This trailer is superior to ALL of the Avengers trailers. Yet you had nothing but praise and high hopes for them. Yet all you can talk about are tiny little nitpicks and a HUGE LEAP in logic that the huge brawl in the streets is the end scene. Come on now. We get it you are a Marvel movie fanboy and have an unholy love for superhero teamups and feel that the nolan batman has prevented that for dc.

Get over yourself and stop trying to ruin the best Batman adaptation that will EVER exist.

ps batmans voice is ALOT better, but I am sure you werent able to notice over your own bull sh**

James Bormann said...

Okay, since when does Nolan suck at filming hand to hand combat? I just re-watched The Dark Knight (still can't watch 5 minutes of that movie without having to watch the rest) and the numerous fights in are shot pretty damn well. I'd say it be pretty harsh to say he CAN'T film hand to hand action scenes.

And for the love of god people, can we stop comparing this movie to The Avengers every ten seconds. Just because they happen to be the two big comic book movies doesn't mean they have a thing in common. Avengers (as well as the other Marvel Universe films for that matter) are action films made of two hours of fan service. That's not a complaint mind you, merely an observation. Nolan's Batman films are crime dramas with a protagonist who happens to dress up as a bat. Completely different.

Anonymous said...

This is a totally irrelevent thing... but isn't Gotham supposed to be fake Chicago? Metropolis is fake New York after all. What with the gangsters killing his parents and all... though it looks like they put bridges that can be convieniently cut to trap everyone in the city so maybe that has changed.

Joe said...

@James Bormann:

I think it's something he's getting better at with time. Batman Begins had horrible fight scenes--way too much shaky cam. Dark Knight was better, but not great. Then Inception had the rotating hallway fight scene, which was one of the best in recent history. So that probably bodes well for The Dark Knight Rises.

@Anonymous 8:14

Gotham was an old nickname for New York City. And while the Gotham of the comics was inspired by several cities, NYC was by far the biggest inspiration, probably because DC's writers actually lived there. (A great Canadian genre fiction/comic book show once said "in superhero comics, all cities are New York".) Bill Finger, Frank Miller and Denny O'Neil, among other prominent Batman writers, have said as much. Nolan's Gotham is primarily based on Chicago, but has enough influence from the comics version of Gotham to have bridges and tunnels.

Blue Highwind said...

YEAAAA-AHHHHHH!!!!

THAT WAS THE MOST AWESOME TRAILER!

Did you see that bridge go up? Jesus Christ, this movie is going to be HARD CORE! Did you see that bridge go up? My God! I don't even know how anybody could still be feeling negative about Batman 3, this looks amazing! I didn't think anything would be better than Batman 2, but this might just do that. Oh wow. This was already my biggest movie of the year, expectations just went through the roof!

Man, its going to be seriously hard watching Avengers on Friday knowing that I'm not watching this movie.

Billy said...

I really don't get the hate, Bob. Just don't get it. That trailer has me all kinds of excited. Yes, we pretty much know what to expect, and yeah it probably can't quite capture as much magic as TDK, but Nolan really hasn't made a bad movie. No reason to think this will be different. The Batman voice being annoying is something most of us have come to terms with. I don't really mind it when it's a hushed whisper. Really, if that's the biggest strike against these movies that says a lot. I personally prefer filmmakers taking a "serious" route with a property like this... and I think it really works for Batman. That's what Nolan does best, balancing spectacle with a reasonable level of believability. Also, the interrogation scene? The car chase in TDK? you can't honestly believe there's no good action in these movies can you?

Eze said...

And another great trailer from Dark Knight Rises. I believe this makes it 3. That said, I feel the movie's true challenge isn't trumping Avengers (as most people would lead you to believe). It's following up as a great sequel to an amazing movie. I feel TDK worked amazingly because if you removed the comic book aspect and placed it as an actual film, it would still hold up. Avengers isn't trying to do that, at all, but it still works. I mean, if you ask around, when TDK came out and was heavily praised, some people actually thought Iron Man was a better film. I couldn't agree or disagree because it seemed the approaches were very different and worked for different reasons.

Anonymous said...

I don't get the hate either. It looks amazing, much better than the previous couple of trailers. Is it because they chose Bane to be the final villain? And definitely people should stop comparing this to the Avengers. oranges and apples.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Bob, this looks like Nolan has completely captured the tone of modern Batman comics and is actually producing one of the most accurate comic book films to date. Seriously. Don't believe me? Read the New 52 BATMAN, which is incredibly awesome by the way.

Anonymous said...

For a man who complains about 1st person shooters all being the same, you seem very comfortable with mocking a film for not being like the others within it's genre.

Nolan picked a style for the franchise and is (shocker) sticking to it. Really, how COMPLETELY out of place would it be if clayface or Mr. Freeze showed up? Maybe if this was the first film in the franchise, I could understand the criticism of the film coming out, but at this point, after TWO of the best comic book movies of all time you're going to suddenly turn on the franchise for staying consistent?

this all seems rather silly.

Deimos Masque said...

I think it's not so much hate as much as it is apathy. While the Dark Knight Rises has a lot going for it.

And the things we have seen have looked amazing, at the same time the Dark Knight (not Rises) sort of burned out the hype for Batman.

This is coming from someone who adores the Nolan films, says their worlds better than the Burton films, saw Begins three times in theaters and Dark Knight seven times in theaters.

There is just something about everything I've seen that make he shrug my shoulders at this movie and go "eh." Maybe it's the lazy title, maybe it's the attempt to be "edgy and topical" with the Occupy like terrorist group Bane runs.

I don't know what it is, just something about this movie hasn't caught my attention the way Begins and Dark Knight caught me.

I don't compare the Avengers and the Dark Knight Rise, they are different types of action movies, and they should be. It's like comparing Star Wars and Star Trek, yes they are both sci-fi, but the style and themes of that sci-fi is entirely different. Same with Avengers (and all the Marvel movies) and Dark Knight Rises (all the Nolan movies)

I'm going to see Dark Knight Rises opening night, I know I am. Heck it's on the day of my birthday even. But I haven't managed to get anywhere near as excited about it as I had for Dark Knight or Batman Begins.

Mack said...

The "not everything...not yet" line really seems to support your idea that batman is going to do die at the end of the film

Deimos Masque said...

"Mack said...

The "not everything...not yet" line really seems to support your idea that batman is going to do die at the end of the film"

Actually to me that made me entirely sure that he wasn't going to do. It would kill the shock value of it, which is were most of the people who have that theory start from.

"Wouldn't it be a huge shock if Batman dies"

Jake said...

Maybe I'm nit picking, but why wasn't the FBI involved in The Dark Knight if the Joker terrorized Gotham to the extent that he did?

Anonymous said...

I must say, I'm underwhelmed by Bane. This is the first time I've noticed how small he is. Chris Evens bulked up more for Captian America. The movie still looks like it's going to rock, though.

Nathan said...

Y'know, I saw the trailer and it did it's job. I have no grips with it. But, still, I have to wonder why so many people who don't like Bob or what he's doing with his various projects are spending the time to watch them and then comment on them.

Anonymous said...

Nathan: because if he didnt spend so much time being the same type of narrow minded crazed fanboy he constantly rails against, he would actually be a damn good critic. I can't speak for others but I keep coming back and calling bob on his BS in the hopes that one day he might finally see it and atleast attempt to show a teansy tiny bit of objectivity. No one can stay completely objective but bob's biases are ridiculous and really cripple his critical work.

B.L.C. Agnew said...

Well, you have to give Bob credit for sticking to his guns. Well over a year ago (before there was even so much as a teaser trailer - hell, before we even knew what villains would be used), he insisted that the movie would be a disappointment. Sight unseen, BEGGED people to just lie down and accept the fact that there was no way it would be as good or as successful as The Dark Knight.

And in spite of ever-mounting evidence to the contrary, he just keeps grasping at those straws. First it was "Bane is a stupid villain" then it was "But Bane LOOKS stupid in the movie" (as opposed to how a lucha libre wrestler would look in the Nolanverse) then it was "But we can't understand him" and then when his voice was cleaned up it was "But Batman and Catwoman don't have the RIGHT Batman/Catwoman" costumes and "the fighting's gonna suck."

And now it's. . . Batman still has the Batman voice (which actually HAS been toned down) and "I hope Nolan's movie doesn't end with a city fight." (no really, that's what he's left with)

Because movies in similar genres having similar set pieces has been a HUGE problem before. For example, Kingdom of Heaven has the same basic setup for its climax as The Two Towers, but approaches and handles the conflict very differently. Hell, Spider-man 2 had the EXACT SAME FINALE as Spider-man 1, down to the exact same person getting kidnapped.

Too bad Spider-man 2. Raimi must have been sobbing all the way to the bank.

Anonymous said...

THIZIZINNACARGH!!!
Thanks, Bob
I'm using that the next time
I get pulled over

Anonymous said...

I'm wondering the chances that the "occupy" movement in this film is based on The Mutants from The Dark Knight Returns. I only really say this for two reasons though, the fact that Batman Begins was based so heavily on Year One and the fact that the overall aesthetic is very similar to the Frank Miller Batman in his TDKR. Hell, the batmobile/tumbler looks exactly the same in both pieces.

Aiddon said...

Nolan, once again kicking all kinds of ass. This is going to trounce EVERYTHING that comes out this summer