Wednesday, June 06, 2012

Time To Get Irrationally Excited About "X-Men" Again

Matthew Vaughn's "X-Men: First Class" not only brought a deader-than-dead franchise back to life, it did so by making the best one yet. So a sequel was kind of expected. What wasn't expected? That Fox would go ahead and quietly register the new film's prospective title with MPAA. But they did, and AICN, HitFix and multiple others have confirmed that that title is...


The internet is now broken.

Quick-version, because I'm working at the moment: "DOFP" was a landmark story-arc during Chris Claremont's defining epic run on the X-Men comics. The basic idea? It's "Terminator" (which it technically pre-dates) but with The X-Men; involving a dystopian near-future where the human government is successfully carrying out that whole Mutant Holocaust thing that "bad guy" Magneto kept warning everyone would happen. In the original version, the older future-version of Kitty Pryde zaps her consciousness back in time into her younger self and tries to prevent The Brotherhood from carrying out a political-assassination (Senator Kelly, from the first "X-Men" movie) which kicks-off the anti-Mutant backlash.

Other than Fox apparently picking this title, nothing else is known at this time... though, obviously, the immediate speculation is that a time-travel story might allow the "21st Century X-Men" of the original trilogy to share the screen (and maybe patch some plot-holes) alongside the Cold War era X-Men of "First Class." Also, it's worth remembering that DOFP's future anti-Mutant infrastucture was based around - yes - The Sentinels.


Merrick_HLC said...

Not sure how I feel about this idea. The best part of First Class was it's uniqueness, it's setting & time period.

I' not sure how mixing time travel in that would all.

Especially not if they tie it to the older movies. Yeah they had Rebecca & Hugh in FC, but those were cute gags, not really major continuity stuff.

Also.... and I'm going to be a bit of an ass here.
IMO the best bit of First Class was it was FINALLY an X-men movie that wasn't WOLVERINE DOES EVERYTHING IMPORTANT.

Having it's sequel be one of the stories that helped freaking start "Wolverine is the most badass of us who will survive long after everyone else is dead" does NOT freaking appeal to me.

Anonymous said...

The only thing I care about is if they bring back Michael Fassbender and James McAvoy.

Sam Robards, Comic Fan said...

While I was initially excited at the prospect, I've since come down a bit.

Mainly because a lot of the key characters associated with Days simply aren't around during the FC period (Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Shadowcat). As a result, they'd have to change A LOT.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the changes associated with a potential adaptation. I just don't know that the writers of FC are good enough to pull it off.

While I liked First Class overall, but I thought it had some slightly disturbing undertones, landing it in the middle of my X-Men movie rankings: X2, X-Men, First Class, X-Men 3 and Wolverine.

My main complaint was that, at the end of the film, the X-Men's roster consists ENTIRELY of white men. And while they were initially all white in the comics, too, the team didn't get popular until Giant Size X-Men #1, when the team diversified. Beast doesn't count as racial diversity here because he wasn't born that way: he was white prior to injecting himself with that Mystique serum.

You compare that roster to the Brotherhood, and they've got Magneto (a white guy), Angel (a latina), Azazel (a red guy), Mystique (a blue girl), Riptide (a European, maybe? Italian?) and White Queen (a white lady).

Not to mention that they killed off Darwin, the only black guy in the movie.

It also just didn't feel like an X-Men movie to me: it felt like Matthew Vaughn made a Golden-Era James Bond movie and threw a buncha X-Men characters in it.

Sorry for the digression: I guess I've been wanting to get that off my chest for a while now.

Peace out!

ANImaniac said...

I was really hoping that they'd just forget trying to tie First Class into the rest of the series and have it be the start of a whole new rebooted series.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with ANImaniac. First Class should a reboot, not a prequel.

Jake said...

Can you honestly tell me with a straight face that Magneto isn't a bad guy, even though he always tries to kill innocent people?

Phil said...

I'd find this quite funny if this was just like "X-Men First Class". By that I mean that the only connection it had to that story was in name only.

"X-Men First Class" was not only not about the "First Class", it didn't even have the "First Class" in it. In fact, that X-Men lineup in that movie was straight up randomness.

Also, gotta love how X-Men was inspiried by the Civil Rights movement to begin with (with Prof. X and Megneto being Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X respectfully) but in First Class, which takes place in the same era that the Civil Rights movement was happening, they take the only 2 black characters and have the black girl turn evil and the other one die in a pointless death that involved the black guy trying to save the black girl that didn't want to be saved because she wanted to turn evil. All in the same scene!

Good job, X-Men First Class screenwriters!

Kholdstare said...

Right doesn't have to be good and good doesn't have to be right. Magneto is a bad guy, yes, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a point.

Kyle said...

In comics (like in soap operas and pro wrestling) bad guys and good guys are fluid. They switch sides, change motivations/tactics and team up giving you all the permutations characters working together or fighting each other.

Permutations. Git it?

Anonymous said...

I don't feel Asian people were adequately represented in X-men First Class. There are more Asians on the planet than anyone else, but the movie was just filled with a bunch of a white and blue guys.

Sanunes said...

I am not sure if I can be exited just because they are using the same name as one of the more iconic stories from the comic universe. I can see it being changed significantly because of the compression required to make it into a two hour movie and as it was mentioned above me the amount of modification that could be required because of the cast of First Class. That was my issue with First Class is the mutants they decided to use, for every time they had Havok onscreen all I could think of is "Where is your older brother, Cyclops?".

Eze said...


Amen to that. Hence, why I didn't bother and won't bother with watching it. Heck, they didn't even bother to use the actual comic line of the same name as some sort of context.

As for this new development, should you really look to do this, if say, you aren't sticking with the original storyline? Meh. I won't bother. Just hope Marvel gets this franchise back....and soon.

Eze said...


Again, Amen to that. You didn't need to just take random mutants, call them the first class, and go with it for the sake of having new mutants to show for marketing purposes, when you could have just had the original 5, which you never did in the first place, in movie form, as a team. I find it very hard to follow a movie when a key bad guy in Mystique is all of a sudden, a good guy, and the key leader to the team, has his brother in his place. Doesn't work for me. But, that's just me, I guess.

As peripheral to the subject, this goes back to my thoughts on X-men 3 and Cyclops' death within the first 15 minutes. You can't logistically have a Phoenix Saga without one of the two main focuses behind it.

Steven said...

Can someone explain to me how x-men was a dead franchise before First class which made the least amount of money but had the second highest budget?

Because Bob just because you don't like something doesn't make it "dead".

BJames said...

FC just didn't feel like an X-men moive, am I the only one who would rather go back to the gang in the first 3 films?

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Phil said...


Not me. I don't really care for those other X-Men films either. The only thing that was good about Singer was that he took the stories seriously (which is something that not even Marvel Studios themselves can accomplish with their own film productions) but the movies themselves were disrespectful to the source material. Changes were made for no reason and they made the X-Men franchise seem as if it all Wolverine centered.

What First Class did great was the Prof. X & Magneto story. Even though that wasn't anything that happened in the comics it was respectful of the characters as they are in the comics. However, the movie itself contridicts the other X-Men movies which means it can't be a prequel to them even though the marketing claimed otherwise. That makes it frustrating to think that the chance to start with a clean slate and make these movies closer to the comics was ruined because the movie still partly operated as if it was connecting itself to the previous movies even though it cannot.

Singer is to blame for First Class being so schizo as he was a producer on it.

The aforementioned poor handling of nonwhite characters (which is usual all white Hollywood business) doesn't help matters.

Anonymous said...

As long as they keep up the whole "Let's retcon the third and fourth movies and replace the mythology from them with better (if more loosely adapted) stories, then I want to see Rogue with superstrength and the ability to fly. I know Ms. Marvel is owned by Marvel Studios ('cause she's an Avenger, and all) but, seriously, as much as I love Movie Rogue, SHE DOESN'T FRICKING FLY.

Baconchest said...

@ Steven, firstly you're wrong. First Class made more than the first movie worldwide, and internationally was actually the second most successful of the X men movies. Secondly, it's pretty clearly not just Bob who thinks the movies had gone downhill and that First Class was a welcome refresher. First Class rated significantly better than Last Stand or Wolverine with the critics. Thirdly, First Class has much greater potential for more movies to come off it. X3 and Wolverine hurt the franchise massively by not providing many interesting characters other than Wolverine, and backing themselves into a corner with the tag 'X-Men Origins' as if they were going to do a series of them. That's why the series was, if not dead, then at least struggling.

Phil said...


First Class doesn't just retcon the 3rd and 4th movies. It retcons the entire film series. X-Men First Class is, despite the marketing and what characters were included implying otherwise, a full on reboot.

jake said...

That's not what I'm saying. Yes, Magneto has a point, but Bob seems to almost worship Magneto, making a Big Picture titled Magneto was right. He clearly doesn't care that innocent people (in fiction but still) are being slaughtered by Magneto and that scares me.

Anonymous said...


You'll find a ton of people that would take Magneto over Prof X. It's not as if he senselessly slaughters "innocent people" and "doesn't care", to him it is a time of war and they are casualties.

When the government attempts to combat mutants they are putting just as many, if not more, lives at risk. The ironic part of the X-men is that the only way to successfully combat the Brotherhood is with other mutants, which indisputable proof that Magneto is right.

Jake said...

He's a mutant supremacist. He's literally become the thing he hates. How is that proof he's right?

Anonymous said...


It proves he's right because only mutants can stop other mutants effectively, which is in turn a practical demonstration of their superiority. By all means according to biology and evolution in the X-men universe mutants are in fact superior to homo sapiens.

Jake said...

They are not superior in rights or worth.

Anonymous said...


How do you figure that one? A mutant that can live a thousand years is surely worth more than a normal human. A mutant with intelligence beyond what normal people are capable of are surely worth more. Etc etc.

Sam Robards, Comic Fan said...

I think intent is a very important thing to look at when examining Magneto.

Magneto is a believer in mutant superiority, but his end goal is the same as Xavier's: mutant prosperity.

They just have different ways of getting there, and with Magneto's course of outright race war being far more extreme than Xavier's attempts to both teach his students how to adapt to the world and teach the world how to adapt to mutantkind.

Magneto doesn't get any thrill or enjoyment out of the loss of human life: he simply feels it's necessary to achieve his overall goal. And he definitely feels that the ends justify the means.

But I own a t-shirt with this on the front, so you could call me a little biased myself...

Peace out!

*Fun Fact: Magneto was once the Headmaster of Xavier's school and is currently on Cyclops's team of X-Men on Utopia, which I'll get into another time, perhaps.*

Jake said...

By that logic, mentally disabled people are worth less than, "normal" people, and centenarians have more rights then every one else.

Plus, if anything the fact that the Brotherhood causes trouble also proves the governments point that mutants are dangerous.